Comments on: How do you work this thing? http://www.vladville.com/2008/05/how-do-you-work-this-thing.html Vlad Mazek on IT, Business and Technology Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:49:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Susan http://www.vladville.com/2008/05/how-do-you-work-this-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-33422 Susan Tue, 27 May 2008 20:02:21 +0000 http://www.vladville.com/2008/05/how-do-you-work-this-thing.html#comment-33422 To all those whatevers that ask for the technology behind the wizards, make sure they ask Microsoft to place it in the documentation first and foremost. Make sure the feedback is given to Microsoft. I still consider myself a "SBSer". I see the 100 level crowd installing a lot of peer networks so I think it's hard to pigeon hole. Just call them the "100's" and that might be a better description. To all those whatevers that ask for the technology behind the wizards, make sure they ask Microsoft to place it in the documentation first and foremost. Make sure the feedback is given to Microsoft.

I still consider myself a “SBSer”. I see the 100 level crowd installing a lot of peer networks so I think it’s hard to pigeon hole.

Just call them the “100′s” and that might be a better description.

]]> By: vlad http://www.vladville.com/2008/05/how-do-you-work-this-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-33405 vlad Tue, 27 May 2008 16:26:23 +0000 http://www.vladville.com/2008/05/how-do-you-work-this-thing.html#comment-33405 Susan, To me, an SBSer is someone that lacks the true skill to manage a server and is (and should) be confined to a wizarded way of doing things. Naturally, when they go out of the wizards way and need to understand the basics of how servers work they get confused and look for an easy way out - "Let me ask instead of read" I am often asked by the partners that I talk to that avoid SPF nation and the like because there are no in depth 200 or 300 level presentations into the technology behind the wizards, why everything is a level 100 or just superficial explanations of best practices. This was my attempt as to why, SBSers by nature are 100 level crowd. Yes, few exceptions to every rule, but you and I both know that the idiots far outnumber those that do have a clue. You of all people know that, because I forward you all their submissions :) Thats not a dig, I'm sorry that the "SBSer" is nearly a derrogative term nowadays. As you mentioned, there are fewer and fewer people that grew up on SBS that haven't matured to more complex environments, yourself and myself included. -Vlad Susan,

To me, an SBSer is someone that lacks the true skill to manage a server and is (and should) be confined to a wizarded way of doing things. Naturally, when they go out of the wizards way and need to understand the basics of how servers work they get confused and look for an easy way out – “Let me ask instead of read”

I am often asked by the partners that I talk to that avoid SPF nation and the like because there are no in depth 200 or 300 level presentations into the technology behind the wizards, why everything is a level 100 or just superficial explanations of best practices.

This was my attempt as to why, SBSers by nature are 100 level crowd. Yes, few exceptions to every rule, but you and I both know that the idiots far outnumber those that do have a clue. You of all people know that, because I forward you all their submissions :)

Thats not a dig, I’m sorry that the “SBSer” is nearly a derrogative term nowadays. As you mentioned, there are fewer and fewer people that grew up on SBS that haven’t matured to more complex environments, yourself and myself included.

-Vlad

]]> By: Susan http://www.vladville.com/2008/05/how-do-you-work-this-thing.html/comment-page-1#comment-33402 Susan Tue, 27 May 2008 16:05:59 +0000 http://www.vladville.com/2008/05/how-do-you-work-this-thing.html#comment-33402 Amazingly I'm probably one of the few folks that is "just" a SBSer. Most folks in the SMB space are rolling out mixtures of SBS, Exchange 2007 etc. to their client base. They aren't waiting until SBS 2008 comes out, their clients need Exchange 2007 now. So I'm not sure exactly what this dig about "SBSers won't be doing Exchange 2007 for a while" and "SMB doesn't get into deep technical" is directed toward, but you are sounding a bit like a certain Dr. I know. It doesn't become you and I think better of you than this attitude you are showing here. P.S. the 60 minutes on the 'new employees' was indeed interesting. Amazingly I’m probably one of the few folks that is “just” a SBSer. Most folks in the SMB space are rolling out mixtures of SBS, Exchange 2007 etc. to their client base. They aren’t waiting until SBS 2008 comes out, their clients need Exchange 2007 now.

So I’m not sure exactly what this dig about “SBSers won’t be doing Exchange 2007 for a while” and “SMB doesn’t get into deep technical” is directed toward, but you are sounding a bit like a certain Dr. I know.

It doesn’t become you and I think better of you than this attitude you are showing here.

P.S. the 60 minutes on the ‘new employees’ was indeed interesting.

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