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Clearing the Community Question Box
Posted: 1:30 pm
December 20th, 2006
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Vladville

Many of you bothered to write in, comment on my blog post and forward me email’s from the sbs list I left. In my absence there has been enough said on and off the list along with discussions that have been done behind the closed doors. Here is my whole objection list and disagreement with the current moderators:

The list is unmoderated – There is no post moderation being done. Anyone is allowed to post anything they wish, correct or incorrect.

There is no interest in moderating the list – Current list owners opinion is that post moderation is the wrong way to go about it, so instead they reply to the threads both online and offline and pile on more junk to the already unreadable discussion list. I offered to moderate the list by only allowing meaningful posts in – I was told that was not going to happen.

There is no interest in removing individuals that are not acting professionally –  The whole list is depreciated by a handful of individuals that tag onto every threat with meaningless warnings about licensing, war stories, and their self-dlilusioned best practices.

So I left and I might add, I am not the first or the most valuable person that has chosen to leave.

It is the fact that I have an opinion that I am not afraid to share thats the problem. I often write on this blog about the importance of having a professional attitude in this world and speaking your mind when you (think) you’re right. I have not censored this blog for Microsoft, Google, IBM, AOL and a slew of other Cease & Desist fans… and I’m not about to start censoring it for my friends feelings.

It is my honest opinion that they are doing a great disservice to the community by allowing the central gathering place for SBSers to become a blog, a ranting ground, source of misleading information. Over the past year that community has gone lower and lower and there is no sign that the moderators are willing to do anything.

So why should I stick around? Consider the following gem from Anne Stanton:

I admire every poster who has the guts to look foolish and post either a question and/or input.

I see, so we’re supposed to be rewarding idiots! Brilliant.

Going Forward

Susan and I have been talking about starting an SBS wiki board but thats about the extent of it. I’m working on the SBS Show newsletter which should be out any day now. That is all I have on the to-do list.

Lot’s of calls on this list to start a moderated group or a board or… Not going to happen. The group and people are already together and all thats needed is some order where there is none. So what may have worked for a few hundred users is not scaling to a few thousand – go figure. Until the owners of this list realize that the changes need to be made the group will tank, as it has for a year, turn away valuable professionals and only entice those looking for a fight. I don’t know about you, but thats not something I’m willing to be a part of. Susan and Wayne are my friends, I trust them to do the right thing. Sometimes you need to kick your friends in the ass to move them in the right direction, I hope thats all this is.

We have fragmented this community into enough lists and groups and the goal of this community ought to be to unite SBSers, not split them apart. I’ll be the first one to volunteer my time towards that goal, but I will not promote, have my name associated or my time wasted on correcting the junk that is allowed to be sent to the list in the first place.

3 Comments

mdalligood |

I am sure you do not need me to validate your post. but in short; well said! Your opinion is valued by hundreds of individuals in the SBSC and elsewhere. Dispite my resent post calling you an ass, I do as well value your opinion and know that what you say to be fact. I know this because I do not rely just on your word, I research. And I think that is what you are trying to voice is that people do not think before they speak. They do not research before they speak. In other words, you get what has been happening for a greater part of the year with various newsgroups — opinions concerning technology and unfactual, unsupported nonsense. IMHO, the reason people do not research is because for them posting their questions on a newsgroup and wanting someone else to do the leg work is easier. What they fail to understand is that the people who dedicate they time and expertise in helping these individuals are NOT their employees. We do not work for those asking these questions. What we get in return are emotional, rude responses to our factual posts. There are times when I can read a person is having trouble communicating his or hers problem, and I will (with patience) help them along. But it seems to be more common that people do not want to think for themselves. So again, well said and I appreciate what you do for the IT community. — Michael, Jacksonville, FL.



Susan |

For the record, I’m not an owner of SBS2k.

I do have moderation rights on smallbizit.

I think it was said best by Hilton. It’s the holidays, Vlad, and lets wait until the new year and relax.

All of us need to bellybutton gaze and do better.

And for the record, sometimes blogging isn’t the way you kick even enemies in the you know what. I’ve burned bridges when I’ve blogged things that I’ve later regretted.

Sometimes ’tis best to put the emails and blogs into that draft folder and come back the next day.



geek2u |

I tend to agree about that group. There will be 80 replies about the illicit use of oem media and the plight of EULA, but technical questions seem to be of less interest. Then there are the EGO rants that plague the forum. Not everyone is a guru, and we all have to start somewhere. I am still learning so much, but I should be taken seriously if my question appears to be jejune. I only have a few clients, and am gaining. http://www.smallbizserver.net is a great site. It is more responsive and professional. There are very knowledgeable people out there, trouble is, most of them lack the grace to share it. It is clear, they take themselves too seriously and get mired in the banalities. If you know the answer to a question, then share it.

JC



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