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Is the SBS community a good substitute for training?
Posted: 11:20 pm
May 24th, 2006
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IT Culture, SMB

This is my formal response to this post. I feel that I, as a community leader and a great contributor to it, have the right to this opinion based on my experience over the past 10 years working in IT.

Now I'm sure by now nobody asks why Susan Bradley writes pages and pages of op-ed on her blog. The latest one has been prompted by me and several months of lost sleep discussing the SBS "community" with her and exactly what the value, responsibility and participation in that community means.

Introduction

I have not hidden my disgust for incompetent people that pass themselves off as small business IT consultants. I first met Roger Otterson at TechEd and within about 30 seconds of introducing myself I managed to stick my foot very far up my mouth in my assessment of the small business IT consultants:

“Roger, I have over 4,000 partners out there. Now, only about 5% of that actually does any true consulting or IT business, the remainder of them are just people that failed in the corporate world and thought they could quickly cash in on their mediocre technology skills”

How’s that for the elevator pitch? Although I’m sure I could have phrased this much nicer the truth is much uglier than that. You see, active small business consultants that float up to the “global SBS community” tend to have one characteristic that is invaluable to anybody looking for a competent employee: willingness to learn. Willingness to admit when they need help, willingness to research. Over time that help is paid back, as those that were “new” yesterday become the “gurus” of today. It’s a good thing, this is why we go to events, this is why we network, this is why we promote the concept of community in terms of working together, sharing our problems, successes and failures so that we can globally help one another win.

The Problem

Now as the concept of community gets adopted by more people the community undoubtedly attracts ignorant leeches that have no business being an advisor to anyone, on anything. You’ve met them, perhaps they have destroyed your network. You’ve received their business card, they likely didn’t have a web site or a phone number attached to them. Everything about them screams “hobbyist” yet they stand in front of you demanding your support.

Allow me to share a story of a gentleman I nearly punched at a TS2 event. This person has been involved in a migration which caused his clients network to be downed for a few days. JJ had pulled me aside to assist the gentleman with the question he had on SBS Migration. JJ recently wrapped a TS2 Wednesday on the Web with Jeff Middleton who is the author or SBS Swing Migration toolkit, an excellent and comprehensive resource on SBS migration. I had just finished an interview with Jeff for the SBS Show where he shared the future of his company, the changes to the Swing Migration pricing and structure and nearly all the details. This gentleman that was standing before me had a simple question:

“Can you please tell me more about the Swing Migration, I have a server that I need to move immediately and I don’t know how to proceed. Can you explain how Swing Migration works?”

Ok, innocent question. Did you watch JJ’s webcast? No. Ok, did you listen to the SBS Show? No. Ok, did you look at SBSMigration.com? Skimmed it. Ok, please go review those resources and I’ll be glad to point you in the right direction afterwards.

“Well, no, I can’t do that I have too much to do. I don’t have the time for that. Can you just tell me how it works, what the steps are?”

At this point I walked away from this gentleman as I was quite ready to punch his lights out. How ignorant could you possibly be that you refuse to do the basic research and training for the job you quite obviously told someone you could do?

Believe it or not, this is the overall competence level of majority of the small business consultants out there. Do not believe me? Please go to a TS2 event and listen to the questions they ask. They have some of the brightest PSS engineers that also happen to have a personality representing their interests to Microsoft and the best questions they can muster are “Why isn’t xxx in the Action Pack?” I am one of the biggest TS2 supporters out there and I constantly call the real partners in the Microsoft community to come out, network, learn, share. Do they? No. Why not? Because they get disheartened to see what their competition is up to. Yes, the guy stealing the swag at a TechNet/TS2 event. Yes, the guy with no business card. Yes, the guy that let his customer “try out” software from his Action Pack. You know them well, they are out there.

 

The SPF

Last month I had a prolonged public discussion with David Schrag regarding the SPF – Single Point of Failure small business consultant. The sole proprietor, unincorporated, poorly trained individual that seems to be the jack of all trades, master of none. You’ve met him. This man can design a mainframe and also does web development on the site. Yes, he has 50 years of corporate IT experience, has been in business for 20 years, looks about 40 and has never managed to grow his business past the sole proprietor status. SPF looks for every opportunity, pretends he can do anything from CAD training to network engineering but somehow doesn’t own a business card. He is an expert at VoIP and Cisco high end routers yet doesn’t know what show config does or where the DNS records are edited. You know him well, your friendly neighborhood computer guy that in any corporate environment wouldn’t even be allowed to clean the dust off the power supply. 

These people are dangerous. Failure is the name of their game and they are the number one, largest, most resilient part of small business IT. These are the men and women that destroy one small business after another, the ones that use Windows XP as a server, that tell businesses they don’t need a server, that host business web sites on dyndns, that have never in their life even bothered to read a book. The “enthusiast” – and now they have become the managed services provider.

Yes, this sole proprietor shop that cannot give anybody a lead, that will not share his customer with anyone that might be able to help, that will not reveal a single thing about what they do or share anything they may know – these guys and gals are out there writing managed services agreements. They are out there, without backup, without failover, without someone to lend them a hand… they are approaching small business and telling them that for a flat monthly fee they will be their tech support department. Yes, anything goes wrong, we’ll be there! Oh really dear SPF, will you? What happens if something happens to another client of yours, whom you’ve promised one hour on-site response time, while you are working on my problem? Do you leave me in the water while you go save them? How do you prioritize? How and when do you train? How and when do you take vacations?

In my years in the IT business I have met many consultants. Only a tiny fraction of them is still in business as a sole proprietor. Those that survived are the ones that specialized heavily and networked every step of the way to provide a comprehensive solution to small business. Majority of them that got very successful at what they do formed partnerships, even bigger companies on their reputation and excellence. I am one of those people.

The rest. They died. You see, an SPF is a leach. SPF has a few clients, perhaps one well established one that keeps them around. SPF’s skills are not high enough to be attractive enough to any employer, but they are a means to solving the most basic of IT problems, the company representative when it comes to research and overall less of a burden for a small company than an IT person might be. They stay in business as long as their sugar daddy business stays around after which they find a new role selling real estate, insurance, mortgages or whatever else requires little education.

 

The Problem

The single biggest thing Susan Bradley has against me is that I consider IT a profession. What comes with being a professional? Education. Experience. Certification. Reputation. Ethics. I see these lacking more and more as the “community” grows and I feel that we as community leaders are committing an immoral task by empowering incompetent people to do more complex tasks instead of handing them a loaded gun with suicide instructions.

Last year I had an “IT Professional” from Orlando ask a very basic DHCP question. This happened on a public Orlando IT Pro mailing list where a gentleman asked about the DHCP server in his Virtual PC shutting down. Before I got a chance to respond another “IT Professional” responded leading the first guy in the completely wrong direction. This is the practice that my friend Pablo Averbuj calls “blind leading the blind.” I scrapped the presentation for the next months meeting and instead held a presentation with JJ on the basics of networking and Windows Domain Controllers. We went through routing, IP assignments, domain controllers, FSMO, trusts, authentication, troubleshooting mail, network, authentication and related problems. After we were done with the presentation I told my group that they need to look around and seek a mentor. If you are just getting started the learning curve is sharp enough. There are too many books, too many webcasts, too many podcasts, too many blogs, too many white papers, too many classes, too many e-training opportunities – get someone you can learn from to tell you where you should focus on. A guidance counselor on your way to IT Professional excellence.  

For the most part, I have never seen most of the people in that meeting again. It was one of our most densely attended meetings, New Horizons offered everyone in the group a two week course at over 75% off and there was just no excuse anyone could have come up with. 

At that point I decided that SPFs are no longer going to benefit from my hard work and that I will not allow my community to become what TS2 has become. I will not allow the people that can’t even understand the basic concepts of computers and networking to be on the same list as the true professionals that are in this business to help small business. In order to participate in the group discussions you must have at least one server you are responsible for. If you have 0 servers you are added to a newsletter list. No beta access for you. No Microsoft incentives for you. No opportunity to ask stupid questions that when pasted into Google produce a solution on the first result. You have to be a serious IT Professional in order to be a part of the IT Professional Association. It’s much like the Bar Association, except for IT Professionals.

I today manage two lists. One for general information on events and happenings around Central Florida. The other is for true IT Professionals. Everyone is welcome to the meetings, everyone is welcome to voice a problem. However, as far as I am concerned, if you are detrimental to the business you are supposed to be consulting I am not empowering you. Susan has on many occasions tried to guilt me into offering help to those that don’t deserve it. She fails to understand the SPF concept. Susan is an accountant, she is a DIY(er) – Do it Yourself(er) because she had to deal with incompetent IT support in the past. She sees my limitation of the Association membership as a personal wall that would never have allowed her to become who she is today.

To an extent she is right. But the day that Susan Bradley hires me as a Jr. Tax Specialist is the day I back away from my morals and start helping liars and thieves. SPFs are rude, they are dishonest, they are immoral and they expect you to do their job for them. They want every aspect of their job explained to them, every problem resolved, every issue handled and they expect you to document it for them. They refuse to do any troubleshooting, post intelligent questions, train, educate, etc.

 

Responsibility 

I am not the smartest person in the world. I, however, am fairly successful. Why? I always looked up to the people that are doing better than I am and always strived to learn more and do better. Recently I spoke to a dear friend, Beatrice, who put me at somewhat of an ease about not being the community punching board for SPFs:

“Was any of it easy? Was getting your MCSE easy? How many books did you read? How much troubleshooting, experimenting, testing and banging your head against the wall have you had to do to get to this level? How much have you sacrificed for your expertise…. And people want you to give that away for free? Yeah, right.”

This community has a responsibility to its participants. Who assumes it? Generally, no one. I recently brought up this topic, “Is the SBS community a good substitute for training?”. Here is that conversation:

Vlad Mazek says:

so basically SBS Community = substitute for reading documentation

Jaded MVP Alter Ego:

How is the world a better place if you spend your free time empowering people who are not qualified to do their job?  Who wins?

Vlad Mazek says:

the customer wins according to Susan. If you could have a do-over, would you wait for a community to help guide you through the job or would you hit the books, get certified, get trained?

Jaded MVP Alter Ego:

That's exactly what I did.  Dude - 3 months in to my MCSE, I knew more than 75% of IT Pros out there because it was still fresh in my mind.  It has been a long time since anything other than self-study was more efficient for me (and I'm guessing you're similar).  A lot of people aren't like that, though.  My thing is that I'm not interested in talking to the lower 2/3s.  It's not the best use of my time.

Jaded MVP Alter Ego:

yeah, I'm not a big fan of that.  You empower joe-bob to install server #1.   he does ok on day one.  day 2 something breaks.  are you now morally obligated to help him out?

Jaded MVP Alter Ego:

Honestly, I don't know how they'll answer that one.  Given the number of newsgroup threads that end with "that didn't work, now what?", I'd say that the sense of responsibility ends rather quickly.

That last line sums up the problem very quickly. Is the community empowering the wrong people and to what extent should it be allowed?

 

Conclusion 

And there you have it. SBS community is one of the biggest and most dynamic on earth. But as this community grows and reaches people that may not understand the community spirit, at what point should we stop handing out the fish and start handing out fishing poles? Everyone in small business IT consulting is concerned about the Geek Squad and Best Buy yet nobody seems to have the SPFs on the radar. I feel it is immoral and a form of academic cheating to do other persons job for them. I am not saying we should build a huge border around the community and make only the most athletic of idiots that jump over it participate – but I am saying that as we grow we resist the temptation to act as an evangelical church that is out to save everyone and force them to recognize SBS as their personal savior. Not everyone is cut out for IT. This is not an easy job, this is not a static job where skills don’t need to be worked on for years. This is a profession. So to everyone that doesn’t treat it that way, let me be the first to give you the following words of advice from Simon Cowel: 

“You are just awful. You should give this up now.”

16 Comments

Joe User |

Okay you have hit the nail DIRECTLY on the head! Just yesterday i was in BB. The very knowledgeable customer new the things to ask. Knowledgeable Lady wanted to know what is SBE and SBA. She waited nearly 15 minutes for BB for Business to respond?!!? I was astonished that the client she was assisting waited while she consulted with the BB4B “dude.”



Bucky |

Separate the wheat from the chaff
I consider IT a profession and a lifestyle. I read Ms. Bradley’s post; I don’t think she’s correct on the barrier of entry. Take the Swing Migration question; if a more inexperienced version Ms. Bradley had asked you the same question your response (paraphrase “read this, then this, and look here if you have trouble”) would have been correct. Most people I’ve helped just want some general pointers on where to look, and I go out of my way to help those people. The other people (“just answers, not solutions”) are the people for whom RTFM was coined. The signal to noise ratio of open IT Communities does seem to be rather bad lately; maybe tiered communities are the way.



Anonymous Please |

This has been my experience as well. I work as an IT hiring specialist in the Boston, MA area and you really know your peers.

People that have been in a consulting practice for over a year tend to overestimate their capabilities and skills and they get discarded almost immediately. They feel that every application they touched even momentarily has made them an expert at it. There is no evidence of having continuously managed a single product through anything beyond basic implementation.

I must disagree on the ethics comments. While I am not sure if any have intentionally lied on their applications for the most part they are really convinced that they are more than just an entry level IT employee. Even if they helped deploy a Windows 2003 server they feel they are competent at it but cannot even make it through the phone interview with me and I’m not a geek!

I really enjoyed your post as it makes me feel like I’m not alone attracting the wrong people to my desk. Thank you and good night.



Lance |

Awesome post Vlad! It’s true that the gray area of the smallbizit is filled with people you speak of but I just do not pay attention to them. Every business will have criminals.

What is unique about IT is that there seems to be no scale, no minimum, no qualification that is easilly identifiable. Compare two MCSA’s for example. Literally anyone with computer experience is a qualified small business consultant. Why do they come? Because they like the idea of $100 an hour. They likely only need to bill a few hours a week to make their previous 40 hours / week pay. It’s just too easy.

Now, pardon me…. BUT:

This is YOUR fault.

This is solely your fault.

You are the one inviting these people to the user groups.
You are the one training these people beyond what they could ever comprehend.
You are the one educating them when they hit the wall.
You are there to help them up when they are down.
You are the one that motivates them through the SBS Show.
You are the one that informs them through Vladville.

You, most of all, are to blame for what you are disgusted with the most. The evolution of people that never would have made it in IT consulting are now being trained, for free, by you.

So if you wish to blame someone for what you see around blame yourself and your fellow SBS compadres for bringing people into this business, people that should have remained where they were at $8/hour.

Yes, yes, I know. Everyone with an @aol.com address is a consultant.

Lance.



Jason J. Thomas |

I left a comment on Susan’s post about this issue, but I thought it best to leave one on your blog as well.

I completely agree with you on your points concerning the IT profession. Training and experience are the things that set us apart, along with a thirst for knowledge. IT professionals should always be learning, and the time when they stop learning is when they should be replaced. I think the hallmark of a good IT professional is one who is “leading the charge.” In other words, the IT professional should be a technologist. They should be the ones experimenting with new technologies. I know that I got hooked on this blog thing while attached to a project at my previous position, and I am glad I did. Best thing I ever did was get on this RSS and blog bandwagon.

Now, as I said in the comments over at Susan’s blog, I think community participation is optional. I try to help, but sometimes you have to know when to say no. Again, participation is optional. You are under no obligation to participate, so if someone takes it in a direction you don’t want it–asking for how as opposed to resources to learn how–then they deserve to be marginalized. I realize that this is tough given your position, so to speak.

I appreciate your contributions to the community, as I know I have benefited from them as a result of my recent conversion to administering SBS at my place of work. That said, I will always do research–almost too much–before giving in and asking someone for help.



CTSTechs.com |

As an IT consultant who started as a sole proprietorship, I initially took offense to the tone of your article. Further reading revealed a clearer picture of what you were really upset with: SPF in counsulting businesses.

I can totally agree with you there, as I have been the one called in to “fix” systems that other “independant consultants” had been getting paid to maintain, etc. for months before their lack of skills and lack of ability to develop skills were exposed. It is always entertaining to “talk shop” with the fakers, and hear them drop phrases like “I designed their Active Directory Architecture” but be stumped when you ask if they have split their FSMO roles over multiple DCs.

As a sole proprietor I have often recommended clients get someone in-house with IT experience. Sure, it means I get less billable hours, but it gives them a first line of defense for simple issues that may arise, and certainly there is value for the client as well as for me if I can train an internal position to do the simple stuff one time (and get paid for the training) and have the client save a trip charge or minimum billing every time someone needs to connect to a shared printer.

Knowing what you don’t know is as important as knowing what you do know. Being able to admit that it might be better for your client to contact someone with more experience rather than wait while you “learn how” (or worse yet, pay you to “figure it out”) is sometimes the most “value added” service you can give them.

I think a good rule of thumb is: if you can grow your business steadily on a referral basis, you are probably in the right business.



Jeff Dempsey |

Vlad,

Excellent post! Maybe a great topic for a webcast… Then again, people sign up for American Idol to hear Simon tell them they have no talent. Being a newbie to the consulting business, I am scared to death of being what you detailed, and if I get offended by what you say, or put down, perhaps I (yes, me.) should look at what I (me again) am doing. You are (in general) where I want to be, so I’ll listen to you, and what you say, instead of doing it (or IT) my way… Given that,

My rules for business:

1. The best learning tools are your eyes and ears. Remote desktop really helps in this regard.
1.a. If you are lost (or going nowhere for more than an hour.), call for help. If Tom Hanks was stuck on an island with a satellite phone, and stayed there for 4 years, refusing to call, he’d be called “an idiot,” or worse.
2. Document everything. MS CRM, Sharepoint, Karl’s book are great for this.
3. Learn from people smarter than you. Most great leaders aren’t experts at everything; they surround themselves with them.
4. One of the best things you can do with your mouth (keeping it clean, folks…) is use it to ask questions. From the customer, from the groups, from your local community. Then see rule #1.
5. Protect the customer’s investment. Just as I wouldn’t ride a motorcycle with their 5 month old baby on the back (untethered), I wouldn’t screw around with their server before backing it up.
6. Have a plan. Plans build confidence. In you. In the customer.
6.a Have a plan “b”.
6.b Follow the plan.

Anyway, thank you for the work that you do. I can’t speak for everyone, but I appreciate it.

Back to your regularly scheduled webcast…



Mark |

Well, aside from the usual Vlad acerbic tone, it’s a very good treatise on the state of things today in our field.

The subject matter reminds me of the first thing I noticed when I started researching whether I could (or would want to) leave my comfy corporate job, where I was very well trained, had 15 years of real experience, and was considered an expert in my own couple of areas - to make a living dealing with networks one 10,000th the size.

What did I find? A business dedicated to doing exactly what you’re complaining about - telling the masses “go ahead you can do it!! Here’s the books you’ll need. Join us for this event. Read about these 15 that have made it!!”

Now I’m not saying I don’t respect what Harry and the SMB Nation crowd have done - quite the contrary. I have learned something every time I pick up one of his books (I own - not borrow - nearly all of them.) But inevitably, the result of marketing the business of SMB Consultant as the job for all is exactly what you describe. It’s like any other business - if you make it appear easy, many will try it, whether they have the skills or not. Many will make a comfortable living, myself included. Some will strive to grow, hopefully avoiding the pitfalls described in “The E-Myth Demystified” (not by Harry, but an excellent book nonetheless).

Whether or not they grow to the level your business has remains to be seen - logic and economics say no for all but a very few. That in and of itself does not make them a success or not.

I believe enough in integrity that I made it part of my company’s name. I think making sure my customers’ networks are running as expected, and exceeding that expectation is more important than if my web site is up (it’s not, but we’re working on it). I have my business cards, and they’re printed professionally. But my experience so far is that when people see the glowing testimonials from my customers, they are far more impressed than they are in the printing quality of my cards. If they weren’t my referrals wouldn’t be there (they are).

So again, I learn from Vlad, from Susan, from Kevin, and from our excellent local group. I learn from google, from the almost weekly SBS installs whether they be for a customer or in my own lab, from the newsgroups and ocassional calls to PSS. I learn from my own experience, and I draw on it constantly. Sorry if I post the rare stupid question - if I do it’s because I didn’t realize it’s stupid. My mistake.

I like the idea of community, but tiers won’t work. It creates elitism. What good would a bunch of gurus be if they only talk amongst themselves? That’s the reason I left corporate world. I understand my responsibilities as a new player - research before asking, help whenever able. But as for the rest of them, the SPFs, I don’t care. My fear is that I might turn away those labeled as SPFs unfairly just because they haven’t learned how the community works. That lacks integrity. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.



Ken Edwards |

Great! I now have a better understanding of your stance, Vlad. SPF’s are just that. Single Point of Failure. But even in the SPF classification, there are the “hobbyists’ and the “professionals”. There are some transistioning, but most hobbyists will remain where they are. I myself am in the transition. What defines the in-betweeners that deserve your help? Their willingness to not just go for the easy answer, but to learn “why”. Their desire to bring in the experts when needed instead of trying to be an expert in everything. Their passion to make sure the client’s best interests are taken care of. Is it always apparent who has these characteristics? No, there are even Gold Partners out there that are be lacking on these principles. I think you are right to pick and choose, and place you time in those that are moving forward.

As to Harry and SMB Nation…

Harry has the same problem that all authors have. Interpretation! Someone that reads his books can chose to ignor his warnings and self-assessment tips just because they have already decided that they want to be an SMB consultant. I think his books are well balanced in self-assessment tips and “don’t jump off this cliff is you do not have a paracute” advice.

-Ken



Paul Miller |

You have very well stated what I’ve been thinking for years. I call the hobbyists “trunkslammers”. They are the guys who do not have a physical address in their Yellow Page ad, the “main office” number is a cell phone, and operate out of a vehicle.

We all clean up after these guys. We all make good money doing so. The drawback is this: The trunkslammers make us all look like a bunch of con-artists who get the check first and then never deliver. We really need something that gets us recognized as true professionals. What that would be, I have no idea. Licensure by the state, like attorneys, cpas, doctors? All of those professions require some sort of contining education requirements.

Anybody can pick up “Master Windows Server 2003 in 21 Days”, open an office, and start up in this profession. Few of us can actually make the business work, keep clients happy, and grow. I’ve seen them come and go.

You know what? It’s been the same way every since I’ve been doing this, and our situation is never going to change. All we can do is be professional and convince the potential customer that we are a different type of IT person. People like us will survive, the trunkslammers will die out to be replaced by a new crop, and we’ll pick up the pieces of the networks they have designed and ruined, and we’ll eventually be the ones who profit.



Ben |

Harsh, but pretty accurate. I’m not sure of the percentage (interesting sum, though), but the vast majority of our clients have had ‘an IT guy’ of some description doing their IT support before we came along, and they’ve moved to us for a reason. Or probably more accurately, they’ve moved away from the last mob for a reason - we were just in the right place at the right time to catch them. And we’re pretty good at keeping em once we’ve got them.
I agree with your comments on the cowboys out there (as we call them). I agree they develop a certain level of distrust in the marketplace that we all need to contend with. But damn, if they were all good, we’d have a hell of a lot harder time finding clients.



happyfunboy |

couldn’t agree more with this post, but you already know that.

oh wait…

i did agree more, over at the funcave:
http://happyfunboy.blogspot.com/2006/05/professional-etiquette.html



Allen St. Clair |

After some of the stupid things I have seen business owners do to their own companies, I think you are being a little unrealistic. If a business owner gets help from anyone with an IT background, they are going to be better off than if they continue to practice DIY.



Myron Johnson |

Vlad,

Although you raise many valid issues, equating Sole Proprietor with incompetence or poor service is not a given. Both competence and incompetence can be found everywhere. And so can good and poor service.

Incompetence drives me crazy. I do free technical support on a couple of technical forums. It bugs me when I get BASIC questions from “consultants” or “IT Pros” who can’t spend some time doing their own reading and learning.

I don’t mind helping fellow consultants with unique problems. I DO mind when the answer to their problem is in the first paragraph of a Microsoft KB article or the first Google search listing.

Poor service isn’t limited to Sole Proprietors. Any busy company, no matter how large or small, will deliver poor service if it isn’t properly managed. I’ve never seen data comparing customer satisfaction with Sole Proprietors vs. larger IT providers. But I have clients who complain about both types of former IT providers.



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