When bloggers judge Vista

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Today I stumbled upon an interesting summary over at Cnet covering blogger comments on Vista "readiness" as is. Their general argument is that people would rather see the next OS done right even if it meant further delays. For what its worth I do agree with taking time as opposed to "crunching" it and before I say what I am about to say I think it's rather foolish to accept comments from "bloggers" as an indication when the release should happen. The only guys that should/could comment on that are the actual Vista developers. You will not hear from them though, they are in a bunker writing code trying to ship the product.  So those are my disclaimers before I say what I am about to say.

As an IT Pro I see little value in Vista over XP. My customers having seen it on my laptop percieve even less. The common question is: "But we do not have to upgrade to it, right?" That is not a pretty question you want to answer if your business relies on people constantly upgrading their computers. For the first time in.. well, ever, what we have just may be good enough and dare I say it "time tested and proven"; XP SP2 is a solid beast, I go weeks without rebooting my main workstation and even then its just for patches.

So will Microsoft take the blogger advice? Sincerely doubt that because they seem to be getting squeezed from all sides. Macintosh is taking back share, now at over 10%. Linux Desktop seems to be gaining ground, not just hot air, and people are actually installing it. Google is becoming a near defacto leader for the web applications but live.com is closing the gap. Make no mistake, Microsoft makes money on Windows, Servers and Office. All the other money-losing ventures are there to diversify the company and allow it to lead in other segments. It is a big, long term bet.

Will Microsoft ever catch up to Google? Can Microsoft compete in media applications with iTunes/Ipod? Will live.com be anything more than failed bcentral.com? Will Vista at its most basic be more compelling than Free/OSS? Will, or rather, when will people open up their pockets for a service instead of software?

The faster Vista can come out, the faster Microsoft will have an answer to the questions above. 

14 Responses to When bloggers judge Vista

  1. Emma says:

    Vista looks very pretty though. The licensing also looks fairly straight forward because it seems they eliminated that upgrade pain we have with XP Home -> Pro. Just go to the web site and turn on extra features.

  2. DanicFR says:

    You are right as usual. I hope to death you are wrong but I’ve learned to know better than that. Here is another story

    Businesses in no hurry to buy Vista

    That does not spell very good times for us VARS does it?

  3. Vlad, I disagree with some of what you say. I understand your point, but from an enterprise point of view there are some features in Vista that will go a long way toward better manageability and reduced tech support.

    Some:

    1. New items are managed through Group Policies. Some: power management, prevent/allow installation of external storage devices (i.e. USB media).

    2. Mobility improvements such as the new SyncManager which replaces the tech support killer, Offline Files.

    This page explains many of the I.T. focused improvements in Vista:

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/overvw.mspx

    Read that document, and imagine if Vista did not have a new name and new UI — imagine it’s just a collection of those I.T. focused improvements (XP SP3). I.T. departments would be chomping at the bit to get it deployed.

    The wizzy factor in Vista might be affecting the opinion on the street.

  4. Erick says:

    Chris, I agree that there are advancements are there and I’m sure Vlad knows too but I think the point is that those are not easy to sell and businesses will not bite. Only VAP/VARs are excited but that may be a harder sell when there are objections and the only answers are the ones provided way over the head of my customers.

  5. Larry says:

    I agree to an extent. Business owner in general does not know what he or she wants they just want it to be cheap. They will not be looking at Vista.

    But this opens up a whole new set of opportunities. Large MCE boxes. Big gaming systems. High end workstations. If you work in those verticals Vista is a godsend because right now the space is dominated by a bunch of halfassed hacks that barely work. I can’t sell someone a $6000 entertainment center and teach them how to reboot it when it doesn’t work… I’m in the “wait till its done” club on this one.

  6. .: OvideO :. says:

    Linux Desktop?

    hahahahahahaahahahaha

    Yeah, right.

  7. Mark Taylor says:

    Hey…

    So isnt the main OS deployment method being missed here? OEM? i.e. new hardware?

    I can count on one hand the number of machines I’ve upgraded from 2000 to XP… in fact I’d struggle to think of any…

    So most of my client deployments to Vista will be new PC’s… and as I strongly recommend 3 year rotation on hardware (and most but not all clients are pretty close)… then in just over 3 years from now all of my clients will be running it… and I’ll be doing the first of those 1000’s almost the day Vista is released…

  8. .: OvideO :. says:

    Ditto on what Mark said. It is all a question of new computers which will be sold with whatever Microsoft produces. I think that was Vlad’s point in that “upgrades” will be virtually nonexistant. Not to mention that most PCs out there will barely run Vista to begin with. Mine is a high end laptop with 2GB ram that scores 1 in Vista Beta.

    What is more interesting is the need or desire by businesses to standardize. One OS, one platform, one release point.

  9. Lawrence Li says:

    What a split of con an pro takes on one mans opinion.

    I’ve read the post, tried to comment three times and here is what I am left with:

    Vlad is like Nostradamus with a bunch of thoughts about the future. How you interpret them to change your business is your call.

  10. FLawness says:

    Nostradamus? I think the proper spelling in this case is nostradumbass. Linux desktop? live.com? MacOS? For business? WTF have you been smoking man?

  11. Paul Lang says:

    I am only interested in Vista if it is going to include these two ultra-revolutionary features:

    1) Stop buttons that stop things
    2) Cancel buttons that cancel things

  12. vlad says:

    Chris,

    I’ll respond to this on the front page because that is the way we need to think about more. Thanks for the comment.

  13. Julius Ray says:

    We recently had MAA truck event and had about 40 people come for a demo of Vista and Office. We wanted them to see what is next, showcase our relationship with Microsoft. We gave them an eval form.

    How do you like what you see?
    – This scored 7.8

    How likely are you to upgrade to it?
    – This scored 2.3

    Customers don’t care about Vista and selling the next stack is going to be an uphill battle.

  14. Jules says:

    Hey Vlad, first comment from me…

    Just to say, I personally want to have fun with Vista on my laptop for the hyperaccess…

    I want Vista on the PC’s that I support for the enhanced group policy suppport…

    But that is it, I agree that I dont see any reason to upgrade to it, but I wont be upgrading any – It will be as Mark Taylor says, it will be new PCs having it…

    I am more concious of the Office 2007 upgrade path myself… Is that something that has been looked at?

    Oh… But my one dream – Would be some way to get Vista group policy on XP SP..3?? Why the heck can’t that happen?

    Cheers

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